Ray Rice Knocking Out His Wife Janay Leaked Video

Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice has some damage control to do after leaked video surfaced showing him knocking out his fiancee, who is now his wife.

TMZ released the video on Monday showing Rice and his wife Janay Palmer getting into a heated argument before going inside an elevator.

The graphic video footage show Rice punching Palmer inside the closed elevator knocking her out cold.

When the elevator stopped he then dragged her unconscious body out and that’s when a passerby saw what was going on.

N.F.L. Commissioner Roger Goodell suspended Ray Rice for two games, but fans of the sports are saying that is not enough given the video evidence.

Domestic violence charges against Rice has since been dropped.

Update:

Baltimore Ravens has terminated its contract with Ray Rice as a result of the leaked video.

The NFL has also suspended Ray Rice indefinitely.

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83 Comments

  1. i can’t believe she married him and i can’t believe this other guy didn’t call the police

    • Mr. Steal_yo_bitch

      Listen bruh your the dumbass that introduced “dicks” to the debate. How about you get your mind off dicks period. Another thing you saying “us men” and “we” as if you speak for every “man” that alone shows no one would win any debate with you not because your right because your stating your opinion but because you believe you and only you can be right. And listen I am not comparing you to king nimrod and the word nimrod can be used in a derogatory form. Same way many other words can be used in a derogatory fashion regardless of the words true origin or meaning so don’t try to compliment yourself because anyone with google can do simple google searches. Btw you can kiss my ass with all your bs thinking a keyboard warrior is supposed to scare me into not sharing my opinion. Bet you wouldn’t act that way if we debated in person. Your nothing but an internet troll that has had one too many internet cheerleaders blow your head up out of proportion. A real person of intelligence and integrity would respect another’s opinion regardless if they agree or not. So do us all a favor and quit replying as it is annoying to feel like your arguing with a child that feels they’re always right

      • “Listen bruh your the dumbass that introduced “dicks” to the debate. How about you get your mind off dicks period.”

        That is a lie which is easily proven by reading my
        replies to you. Why lie at this point in the argument??!

        I hate to tell you this, but you need to stop with the name calling. Especially since you do not know the difference between the contraction of “you & are,” and the pronoun “your.”
        Think, brah…glass houses and throwing stones!

        “Another thing you saying “us men” and “we” as if you speak for every “man” that alone shows no one would win any debate with you not because your right because your stating your opinion but because you believe you and only you can be right.”

        Yes! Absolutely! Men will not beat on a woman. Only animals will. Please allow me to reiterate because your skull is thicker than most…men don’t hit women, only punks do! Ray Rice is a
        punk! What part of that don’t you comprehend??!
        The poster known as Starboy said it best. You should have his reply to you tattooed on your idiotic forehead so you won’t forget how things work in this world.

        “And listen I am not comparing you to king nimrod and the word nimrod can be used in a derogatory form. Same way many other words can be used in a derogatory fashion regardless of the words true origin or meaning so don’t try to
        compliment yourself because anyone with google can do simple google searches.”

        *chuckles*

        Whatever the f#ck ever, fruit loop.

        “Btw you can kiss my ass with all your bs thinking a keyboard warrior is supposed to scare me into not sharing my
        opinion.”

        (SMFH)

        Haven’t you noticed??? Your opinion ain’t worth chit in here. Maybe you can bring that argument to the b!tch you stole, but here in this comment section you have proven yourself to be inadequately armed for a battle of wits.

        Let’s put aside your false bravado for a second, do you honestly believe the left foot I broke off in your ass feels like a kiss??!

        “Bet you wouldn’t act that way if we debated in person.”

        You would surely lose that bet! At the first hint of stupidity coming out of your mouth I would tear into you like a ravenous wolf on a wounded deer. Insolent little boys like yourself rarely
        rise above their station in life to bring logic, reason and a modicum of decency into any discussion. You are a punk, and from this day forward you will be treated as such.

        “Your nothing but an internet troll that has had one too many internet cheerleaders blow your head up out of proportion. A real person of intelligence and integrity would respect another’s opinion regardless if they agree or not.”

        From an Ad hominen attack into a straw man argument…and you have the unmitigated gall to call me the troll??!

        LOL!

        I have made clear my position on Rice, his wife, and you. If you don’t like what I said you are free to rebut it. Please note that I’m not the kind of man to respect the unschooled opinions of a childish buffoon.

        “So do us all a favor and quit replying as it is annoying to feel like your arguing with a child that feels they’re always right”

        Yeah! You’re about as bright as a pea-sized turd being dropped into the bowels of a darkened outhouse if you think I’m not going to rip into you at the first opportunity.

        Who is this US you speak of??! I’m curious to know the lame-ass excuse a hypocrite like you would employ to cover his own ass. Need I remind you about what I said about glass houses and throwing stones??

      • So Mr WSHH can’t handle the shyt he dish out. Ziggy just mentally fu**ked you without using the lube that was a few inches away.????

      • Here’s a joke for ya! Posted on WSHH by you know who!

        “Lmfao yo everybody on wshh peep this b!tch ni99a ziggy right here. This ni99a on my dick so hard trynna redeem himself he started backtracking all my comments from A DIFFERENT WEBSITE. ZIG HOP OFF MY DICK … And I can say it cause you took the time to go through my other comments on other sites. Bet “salena” is you undercover. F#ck off and get off my dick.”

        This boy has more dick on his mind than a limo full of whores on a Friday night! Plus, the dumb f#ck thinks you and I share one body!

        Meh…if he’s going to call me a troll, I guess I should live up to his expectations, no?

      • I went over there to rub some salt into his wounds, naturally I ????kissed him. *sighs* He’s so dreamy! ????I found myself on the wrong side of the internet. I was concerned that a tyrannosaurus rex would come and eat me. roflmao I was left traumatized, I sat it the bottom of the tub fully clothed with the shower running ,rocking myself back and forth.????

  2. “Yes it’s wrong and despicable for a man to hurt a woman but it’s wrong for women to receive 0 accountability for their role in the incident.”

    Sorry about that, brah! Your argument is standing on some shaky legs right about now! Ad hominen attacks will do that to any argument! You like to talk about a lot of dick, and name call as if that will shore up any point you’re trying to make. What you’ve accomplished is nothing short of resurrecting that childish bullchit I left on the playground of my elementary school.

    Understand that (we) don’t give a f#ck if the woman hit you first. Maybe the law might, but us men won’t.

    You claim Janay had zero accountability, yet she was charged too. If you could be so wrong about her accountability in all this, I can only wonder what else you’re completely wrong about!??!

    Furthermore, I have kindly asked you to keep my dick off your mind. One more infraction like that and I will have to treat you with extreme prejudice. Keep a civil tongue in your head. This is your last warning.

  3. This guy can only handle physical combat. lol He can’t handle mental combat via a woman. Let Isis get their hands on him he’d be crying to the point of dehydration. roflmao

    • Did you read about the California man that fed his ex her pet dog cooked. I been spending time lately on Observer getting in trouble sometimes.

      • Yeah I did. I wonder if he’s mentally ill or just being a jerk and this was his way of teaching her a lesson. The male species have been having a hard time lately,I have no faith in the opposite sex. I see myself becoming a spinster. roflmao

      • Girl it’s crazy you don’t know when you are hooking up with a psychotic monster. It’s really crazy.

  4. NYC one her being “not attractive” has nothing to do with it. lol I think she’s much better looking than him but again that has nothing to do with it.:)

  5. Zig zag I totally agree . For him to lose his career over here to show you he doesn’t think real smart . This chick is not even attractive . I saw her hit him doesn’t matter . They take domestic violence very serious . If you are in a relationship and two people beating on each other that is not a relationship .I cross the line on certain things in a relationship .

  6. Walk the hell away and don’t put your hands on a woman . I know it’s easier said than done . I saw her hit him first he push her down in the elevator. He is a dumb ass especially when u are in the public eye . Regardless of what the confrontation was I do not feel sorry for this guy .

    • Nope! It is not easier said than done. In reality, at 5’8″ 219lbs it would be easier for him to take whatever the f#ck she was dishing out. It’s not as if Janey hits like a linebacker! I mean, this guys takes hits from other men for a living who weigh in at over 260lbs…WTF was this woman going to do him that he had to knock her out…what could she do with her two empty hands??!

      Ray Rice is a straight-up cowardly f#cktard who needs to be put in his place by the long arm of the law. I hope the authorities don’t think that we (the public) are going to let all this slide!

      • I missed you, salena! How ya been? I hope everything is good in your world! I’m really liking your new avatar…

      • I’m cool lol.I missed you too. :) Yours never change Mr. pac basketball man. I thought you might have been abducted by the same aliens who abducted Samantha Mulder. roflmao

      • Yup! I was abducted by an alien. She took me back to her home planet aptly named pum pum!
        Immediately upon arrival I began to lay waste to her precious planet. In the end I drilled down deep into its tiny core and came…many times.

        I’ve heard some chit about men having to inform their doctor if they have an erection lasting longer than four hours…but what am I to do if I didn’t take any little blue pills?! Please help!!

      • Mr. Steal_yo_bitch

        For instance in nature if a female lion attacks the male lion what do you think will happen. People forget men are not punching bags. The same way a woman suffers emotional damage from a physical confrontation so does a man. Women don’t have the right to attack a man same way a man has no right but by everybody else’s opinion women do have the right to attack a man with no repercussions.

      • Sir hitting a female will always be wrong no matter which way you put it.

      • You’re actually comparing animal instinct to poor human behavior, really? The big difference being that animals don’t know any better. We don’t know the full extent of it as we only saw what took place on camera. Her being the aggressor in this instance. What about the others that we didn’t see?(behind closed doors)He could’ve immobilized her by grabbing her hands, feet etc. They actually got married after this….insane!

      • Yes, Salena! Could you imagine if we all acted like animals!?! Where would it begin…where would it end??
        Expounding on his lioness/lion analogy, a single mother of two would have to deal with the murder of her two kids at the hands of her new beau. If you know anything about lions you would know that the lioness will not f#ck with a lion if she has cubs to take care of. So, the lion will kill the cubs in order to perpetuate his own bloodline.
        I thank all that I hold dear that we are not anything like those animals.

      • Had it happened to his sister even though she might have been the one who instigated the confrontation by pushing him, cursing him out, and by taking a whale sized dump on him(not literally). Am I to believe that he’d hold the dude’s hand and sing kumbaya ?I’m already imagining the outcry had she used a cast iron frying pan instead of her bare hands. lol

        It was bad enough that he engaged in a tit for tat push fest with her but he escalated the situation by throwing a punch that knocked her out.He’s actually lucky she woke up and that this didn’t take place at home with plenty of objects at her disposal. His a** would’ve been in the frying pan.

      • I don’t know about you, but I am a man…I can think…I’m in control of my own emotions. There’s no way in this lifetime that I will ever allow an argument between me and a woman to get that far out of control.
        To be spat upon and hit by a woman means I did not proper set the ground rules for this relationship. I only say that because I can not think of one woman, girl, or f#cktoy…past or present who believes I would accept being spat on, or hit by them. There’s nothing about my persona which says such behavior is appropriate, or “OK” in any way.

        You’re absolutely right about men not being punching bags, and I’ll even go further to suggest that neither are women.

      • Listen zig we were born to the earth as animals and shall die as animals to say any different means you need a little more education in life. We aren’t talking about cubs here jackass I’m stating that any animal being attacked will retaliate; including us humans. 2nd we all know with out having to say that any degrading or violent action against another is wrong but it still happens amidst heated arguments and confrontations. Rice was wrong for what he did but everyone’s bashing rice while yes he is wrong there’s so much sympathy for the instigator. Salena and zig could this not have been avoided if Janay walked away and didn’t start anything? Yes it could have yet she chose a degrading action. I’m against what rice did all I’m saying is she disrespected and it goes back to kindergarten treat others the same way you’d like to be treated. Women love to forget that when convenient I’m level headed calm and rational but as a man I can admit I’ve been brought to the point where I wanted to hit a woman but I didn’t. Zig as a man you should be able to admit women have brought you to that point. Society has women believing they can go as far as hitting a man aside from spitting on and verbal humiliation or degrading words hurled at a man; a man must withstand all thrown at him. Wrong! Women have been fighting to be equal to men for decades. But don’t want to be equal in that aspect or many more convenient aspects. And zig who the fu** sets rules in a relationship? Respect for both sides goes without saying. You don’t sound genuine to refer to a woman as a fu** toy is degrading I’m sure your “duck toys” would have a problem being referred to as that. To say your in control of your emotions is hilarious. Emotions are something we cannot control, your actions is what you control. Had this happened to my sister action would be taken on rice(legal action) but I’d also blame my sister if she attacked him first because IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF SHE DIDNT INITIATE EVERYTHING.

      • You could’ve made your point without calling Zig names. How do you know what would have happened? You don’t sound psychic. I imagine had she died you’d still blame her. You actually blame the victim? Guess what, she’s dead because some idiot couldn’t fathom that all it took was one good punch. He married the so called “man beater.”If you saw this happening in real time would you be able to distinguish the aggressor from the victim?

        Now as it pertains to Zig
        Dude please be prepared for a complicated blood transfusion as we await Zig’s response. You’re practically dead on arrival. roflmao
        *salena grabs a bowl of popcorn*

      • Wow, waiting too…

      • I’m already emptying the contents of my bladder and considering fasting. The suspense is already killing me. roflmao

      • LMAO!!!

      • What legal action are you talking about? In your eyes he did nothing wrong. roflmao Either he was in the wrong or in the right. You can’t have it both ways. You don’t get to waste everybody’s time by taking any legal recourse.
        If you walked in on the aftermath of a physical altercation between your sister and her bf with her being knocked out. Am I to believe that you won’t manhandle her bf?

      • I’m done you obviously can’t read and by default are to stupid to comprehend that neither he or she was right as I stated many times. Oh and hop off zigs dick because I’m saying he was wrong but so was she because it could have been avoided easily if she never started to begin with I said plenty of times. And legal action means he’d be getting assault charges as well as domestics. Not the slap on the wrist he initially recieved

      • I’m currently preoccupied with the thought of riding Zig’s big juicy cock at the moment. If I could only pry myself away for just a second…..You clearly cannot contain your feminine emotions.Your punk ass just contradicted yourself and now have to resort to personal attacks to compensate for the fact that you’re practically as wet as I am. Continuing this debate ,well argument with you is the equivalent to me punching a spastic in the face. You clearly have no control over your emotions as well as your actions. :)

      • Wow, this is X-Rated.

      • I was playing into his hands as he told me to hop off Zig’s dick like wtf. I entertained his assumption that by me being a chick I must somehow be consumed with thoughts of riding some dude’s dick.Why not the other way around? lol But yet he’s talking about treating women as equals then at the same time degrading me all because I said that he was dead on arrival as it pertains to Zig by calling the man names, yet he claims to be in complete control of his actions.(Mr.bytch stealer) dwl

        I wonder if he knows that your emotions have a significant impact on your actions.

      • I was shocked he said that to you. Maybe he want to do it. I am waiting for the hurricane to start. What should we call it?

      • A hurricane with a few tasmanian devils thrown in for good measure along with a few land sharks.lol

      • Thanks for that, salena! Now I’m preoccupied with wiping my DNA off my keyboard, screen and ceiling.

      • I had to edit that one. I know you’ll poach the hell out of that primate. Bring back all his finger nail plates along with some of that bushmeat. roflmao I’m feeling a bit adventurous. *winks*

      • Errrr! uhm!! Please could you keep my dick off your mind?

        Now that we got my dick out of the way, let’s talk about rights. No one has the right to hit another person outside of a sport where contact is allowed. That is a given. It is written into our laws.

        Hypothetically, if a pubescent child were to punch me in my face would it be “OK” for me to break that child’s arm in retaliation?! It seems to me that you believe that would be the “right” thing
        to do!
        I dunno, call me stupid, but knocking a woman out cold for slapping me seems a wee bit over the top! Not to mention cowardly as f#ck!

      • C.R.E.A.M. Makestheworldturn

        Again you guys are too stupid to comprehend what I’m saying and are only seeking to argue to come out on top. I’ve said multiple times rice is wrong for what he did. I’ve said it multiple times it’s wrong for anyone to put their hands on anyone is wrong. I’m saying she’s equal blame in the whole equation. She could left It alone and walkedpaway. I’m saying ladies If you swinging on a man or attack a man don’t act like he just decided to knock you out. Don’tt act like your a random victim. I think it’s a herrendous action for a man to hit a woman and I would never. And the women that suffer abuse physically and verbally from a man I feel for you. But if a woman attacks a man and he chooses to knock her out I believe there should be charges on both parties. A greater charge for who ever hurt the other worse obviously so long they fit with the altercation. But I believe if both parties are aggressors both parties should be charged. People are sending the message knowingly and unknowingly that it’s alright for a woman to hit a man. There won’t be any repercussions if a woman hurts a man. If a man beats a woman for no reason lock em up they’re scum of the earth. But if a man hits a woman because she’s punching scratching Gand doing other painful sh they should BOTH BE CHARGED. Yes it’s wrong and despicable for a man to hurt a woman but it’s wrong for women to receive 0 accountability for their role in the incident. So do me a favor zig understand that and get my dick out ya mouth. You started with me instead of trying to comprehend and understand my opinion you mocked my opinion with your little cheerleader in an immature manner. I respect your opinions and did not mock it or try to make a fool out of what you believe.

      • C.R.E.A.M. Makestheworldturn

        And stop hypothetically comparing a grown woman to a child nimrod. A child is still growing and might not know any better. A grown woman should know better than to hit a man. A grown man should know better than to hit a woman. Yet both genders make mistakes while in a rage. You don’t know what was going on what happened prior to that. You don’t know if they were both at their boiling points where you black out and do sh without thinking.

      • Your clown ass trying to front with a ghost account! You’re such a virginal suicidal ballerina! You gets no p#ssy!

        It’s no wonder the only p#ssy you’ve been able to grab come from your local k#ll shelter. These silicone inflatable b#tches you purport to steal make for good human shields. P#ssy ass c#nt ass clown thought he had the finesse of Agent007. Those balls of yours are naturally castrated! dwl

        I should slap your ass with your own dead presidents!

        You yellowed-bellied clown! As a matter of fact, hold my bouquet my bridal garter,my veil, my bra… I’ll do the swinging!!

      • “Dum Island Bunnies”-M.S.Y.B
        You and your d#ck sucking lips! I have your bytch ass still thinking about that spanking I gave your ass a month ago. Your b#tch ass probably the only one paying for Z grade p#ssy meat!

      • Your debating skills could use a major overhaul. You’re the equivalent to a peg legged autistic badger!

      • Your annoying ass needs to be put in a gimp suit and be made to play the crying game with the Islamic State. dwl

      • Mr. Steal_yo_bitch

        First off since you can’t read I shall rephrase it. A man should never put his hands on a woman same way a woman should never do it either. A woman will attack a man expecting no repercussions which is incredibly ludicrous. I’m saying if you initiate a fight or altercation with physical actions the biggest at fault is the instigator. Janay is a victim that can only blame her self. She could have also walked away she could have chose to instead of hitting rice she could have chose to walk down to hotel security. But she didn’t she swung right. Do yourself a favor and just stop. Ray rice had choices so did Janay to say she has no blame in the situation is ignorant.

      • You don’t get to manhandle me using these black text then expect me to give you the time of day. I’m not suffering from battered woman syndrome. I know when I’m being abused. And in this case I was not the aggressor like in most of the domestic violence cases.

      • You don’t get to manhandle me using these black text then expect me to give you the time of day.I’m not suffering from battered woman syndrome, I actually know when I’m being abused. And in this case I was not the aggressor like in most of the domestic violence cases.

      • Can’t understand why they would get married, apparently there was violence in the relationship before marriage. And I am sure with this happening they will be history.

      • So it seems and it also seems like the dudes who support Rice’s actions probably see her as the aggressor based on a 1mp camera and what boils down to be a silent movie. What happened before the cameras started rolling? Who’s to say that she isn’t the victim?Not all victims respond the same way. His actions after she hit the floor were deplorable, all that muscle mass yet still King Kong couldn’t pick Ann up properly.

        I laugh at the dudes defending this dude by blaming her. When he could’ve easily wrapped her into a pretzel, he must also suffer from claustrophobia. They’re the same ones who’d complain about Zimmerman’s use of excessive force.

      • I couldn’t believe how long it took for him to get her up, and even when he did her feet was still in the elevator. The only thing left for him to do was beat his chest like King Kong. He must have punched her real hard for her to be knocked out cold. He should thank his creator he didn’t kill her, because she could have died. I am shocked she married him after that incident. I don’t think it’s the first time that happened. I don’t think either party in a relationship should hit on each other, if you can’t get along go your separate way. I guess now he probably won’t be playing football no more maybe he can become a boxer…also no one knows what happened before they entered the elevator.

      • Domestic violence is very confusing. If I am ever a victim with him being the aggressor, I almost feel like I should be allowed to lessen the damage I receive by defending myself against him. I wonder if I would be seen as less of a victim if I engage in violence myself.
        Am I expected to be his adult sized punching bag,because it makes me seem more like a damsel in distress?

        I wonder if parents know that children have memories and are likely to remember the most traumatizing ones.

      • I would def try to defend myself, no way I am gonna stay and take licks…and most children that witnessed DV end up with life long issues…

      • I throw a hypothetical scenario your fu##ing way and you’re still talking about the same bullshyt? I am done! You clearly see yourself in that c#nt hole. You’re actually doing a tremendous disservice to your efforts by behaving like those same women who abuse men by referring to people as [email protected], dumb etc.”Treat others as you wish to be treated” said Mr.Steal_yo_b**ch

        You’re no better. roflmao

      • Who’s bi–h did he steal? LOL

      • Someone’s poor lesbian lover. That dude is good at degrading people from the looks of some of his comments. He fits in well with those savages at WorldStarHipHop. Those dudes are good at banging their chest it’s practically their 2nd nature along with dragging their knuckles across the asphalt.(savage) roflmao

      • He will find out who Zig is soon. Yes he love to put people down it seems.

      • “Had this happened to my sister action would be taken on rice(legal action) but I’d also blame my sister if she attacked him first because IT WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED IF SHE DIDNT INITIATE EVERYTHING.”

        Unlike you, I will not defend the actions of a man who has knocked a woman out cold for slapping him, and or spitting on him, especially a woman he’s been intimate with.

        Sure! It’s ok for her to leave all kinds of spit on his dick, but heaven forbid any of that spit should touch his face!

        F#ckit! Rice is a craven coward, and you disgust me for defending the indefensible acts of this coward.

      • “To say your in control of your emotions is hilarious. Emotions are something we cannot control, your actions is what you
        control.”

        I have a sneaky suspicion that if we were playing Texas HoldEm, I would end up with all your chips by the end of the night. Do you know why lie detector test are inadmissible in a court of law? Yup! That’s right! Those physiological responses brought on by emotions can be controlled rendering such tests an ineffective tool at getting at the truth.

        Maybe you should take another good long hard look at that video of a man an animal who lost control of his emotions and allowed his actions to knock a female out cold, brah!

      • “Respect for both sides goes without saying. You don’t sound genuine to refer to a woman as a fu** toy is degrading I’m sure your “duck toys” would have a problem being referred to
        as that.”

        *chuckles*

        You have no idea, do you??! Mr.Steal_yo_b**ch wishes to lecture me about degrading women!??

        Got hypocricy?

        If by chance a woman should ever whisper in your ear and asks to be your f#cktoy get back to me, we’ll talk. At least then we would have one thing in common. Until that happens, keep believing woman aren’t sizing you up as you size them up!

      • “And zig who the fu** sets rules in a relationship?”

        ?!?!

        I do!

        My girl knows I have zero tolerance for such things as; lies, deceit, crime, unwanted pregnancies, illegal drugs, poverty, and ignorance. I am to treat her like the woman she is, she in turn must treat me like a man, or get dumped like last week’s garbage.

      • Wow!?! LOL!

        Life is too short for any f#ckry, Juney! Come hell or high water I’m going to enjoy the time allotted to me on this Earth. Who has the time to deal with that kind of nonsense!? Certainly not I.

      • I know my dear. ;-)

      • “Women have been fighting to be equal to men for decades. But don’t want to be equal in that aspect or many more convenient aspects.”

        …and rightfully so!
        Quick! Tell me where I can watch a MMA bout pitting a man against a woman? Are there any females playing NFL football, and why not? Do you honestly believe WBC heavyweight champ Bermane Stiverne should defend his belt against a woman??! WTF!?!

        The rights women have been fighting for has more to do with the right to vote, wage parity, employment opportunities, and the right to choose what they can do with their own bodies.

      • “Society has women believing they can go as far as hitting a man aside from spitting on and verbal humiliation or degrading words hurled at a man; a man must withstand all thrown at him. Wrong!”

        Short of that woman having a weapon of some sort aimed at me, there’s not much that I can’t take from a woman. I give as good as I get!
        Humiliation and degradation should not be part of any relationship. Mutual trust, honesty, respect, passion and love are the things I strive for when dealing with a female. I just don’t agree with your asinine belief that I’m not tough enough to take what a woman throws at me without knocking her the f#ck out.

      • “Women love to forget that when convenient I’m level headed calm and rational but as a man I can admit I’ve been brought to the point where I wanted to hit a woman but I didn’t. Zig as a man you should be able to admit women have brought you to that point.”

        WOW!!! I don’t know what to say to that!?!
        All I know is when a man brings violence to a woman, the woman has won the argument by default. Personally, I don’t like to lose.

        When I think of all the issues, problems, and disagreements I’ve had with the opposite sex, there’s not one of them I could think of which could have been solved with violence.
        The punch to the head, the kick to the midsection, or the chop to the back of the neck are not the tools I’m reaching for when engaged in a heated discussion with a woman.

      • “Salena and zig could this not have been avoided if Janay walked away and didn’t start anything? Yes it could have yet she chose a degrading action. I’m against what rice did all I’m saying is she disrespected and it goes back to kindergarten treat others the same way you’d like to be treated.”

        I guess I am really different than you! It is my belief that a woman who spits on me hasn’t disrespected me…she has only disrespected herself.
        Like I said previously, I have never been spat upon by a woman. If by some freak of nature salena were to hit me square in the face with a huge gob of her spit, I’d wipe it off with my hand and then proceed to lick my fingers clean. That would be the last time I would give her a chance to spit in my face.
        In the realm of male/female relationships, a woman who has no respect for herself would be a deal breaker for me. Sorry, I’m not that animal who would leap across the table and rip a left hook to her head. I am a man!

      • “2nd we all know with out having to say that any degrading or violent action against another is wrong but it still happens amidst heated arguments and confrontations. Rice was
        wrong for what he did but everyone’s bashing rice while yes he is wrong there’s so much sympathy for the instigator.”

        (SMFH)
        Did Rice get knocked the f#ck out, or was it Janay laying on the floor unconscious??!

        I can’t begin to tell you the amount of heated discussions I’ve had with both sexes. The only time(s) it has ever led to a physical confrontation is with a male. Go figure!
        When having a heated discussion with a woman I know my limits, I know how far I’m willing to go in order to get my point across, or to prove it. I use reason, logic and a calm demeanor when dealing with the opposite sex. I believe if a woman feels intimidated, or threatened with physical violence there will be no getting down to the root cause of the conflict. Fear should never be part of a relationship. IMHO fear is the antithesis of love.

      • “We aren’t talking about cubs here jackass I’m stating that any animal being attacked will retaliate; including us humans.”

        When you resort to name calling it only means your argument is weak, and can’t stand on it’s own merit. I suppose that’s to be expected from a man who believes he’s an animal.
        Unbeknownst to you, this conversation will go where I want to take it. If I wish to talk about blue daffodils, then that will be the topic. Please don’t attempt to tell me what I should and should not be talking about.

        Now that we’re clear on that, let me tell you about Solange Knowles, a woman who attacked Jay-Z in an elevator. By your own grossly contradictory logic Jay-Z is no animal. Which makes perfect sense to me…men don’t beat on women, animals do!

        Are you an animal?

      • “Listen zig we were born to the earth as animals and shall die as animals to say any different means you need a little more education in life.”

        If I were to call you a b!tch, I wouldn’t be looking at you as a female dog. If I were to call you a p*ssy, I would be looking at you as a big sopping wet vagina…subsequently, when I say I’m not an animal it is meant to convey the differences between a human being and those we keep in zoos, those we eat, those who will eat us, and those we keep as pets.
        I’m going to have to insist that you get an education before you end up in a cage.

      • Ziggy, you fixed him just like I thought you would…;-) salena and I missed you very much, no fun around here when you are missing in action. Saw your x-rated comment. LOL

      • I missed you too, Juney!

        Although, I’m not too sure something as broken as Mr. Steal_yo_b!tch could ever be fixed. He’s got this battle of the sexes all twisted and screwed up! Don’t get me wrong, tho…I understood what he was saying about women not having the right to hit a man.

        The type of guy I am, if that “b!tch he stole” were to hit him in my presence and he responded in kind, I would beat him like his daddy used to. That you can take as gospel!

      • Some women like to get physical with men I know, I think that’s wrong. I was very upset when Solange hit Jay, and I was so proud of him how he handled the situation. Also I am totally against spitting that’s very degrading to me. If I was a man I would walk away and that’s the last time any woman who hit or spit on me would be in my presence…

      • I am annoyed at his existence now that I read some of his comments to others. He’s probably used to only playing with unicorns. roflmao