Vybz Kartel, Gaza Slim Conspiracy Case Dropped

Vybz Kartel has one less legal trouble to worry about after prosecutors dropped a conspiracy case against him.

Kartel and his two co-accused Gaza Slim and Andre Henry were back in the Corporate Area Resident Magistrate’s Court today.

SEE ALSO: Vybz Kartel Sitting On Huge Catalog Of Unreleased Songs

The three were charged with conspiracy to pervert the course of justice and perverting the course of justice.

Directors of Public Prosecutions Paula Llewellyn cited Vybz Kartel’s appeal as the reason for dropping the case against the dancehall artist.

Kartel’s lead attorney Tom Tavares-Finson made an application in court last week to have the case adjourned because the witnesses in this case and the murder trial are the same.

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The charges stemmed from an incident in 2011 where Gaza Slim, real name Vanessa Saddler made a false police report claiming that she was robbed by a man name Clive Williams.

Cops say she fabricated the story with the help of Vybz Kartel, real name Adidja Palmer, and Henry.

 
 
 

201 Comments

  1. LetTheTruthBeTold

    The fact of the matter is. The legal system is made up of: a) civil and b) criminal. And while I am posting this in response to the conversation below that makes no sense at all . . . anyone reading this may want to take note to better understand the system.

    Civil is if I am angry at my neighbor I take him/her to court. Criminal is if I do something against the law (this is rules made up by government). The act can be classified as either misdemeanor or felony. The consequence can either be: a) misdemeanor (one year or less in jail – we know this is not where Kartel ended up) or felony (one year and a day OR MORE – So we know this is where our Kartel is). Okay, in a civil suit all I have to do is to create SOME KIND OF DOUBT as we often see on Judge Mathis. However in criminal court we have to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt. Now obviously Kartel received a sentence, which most people are reporting is 35 years, which is inaccurate. That is when he will be eligible for parole. What if he isn’t? Then he serves more time. Next . . . Kartel entered the system at the Trial Court. He was found guilty. He will now move to Appeals Court and then if he is found guilty and the conviction STAYS, then his lawyer may then take it to the highest court. In New York, this is The District Court. In the 49 other states it is referred to as the Supreme Court. If Kartel is still found guilty he will serve his time. Now here is why I don’t feel sorry for Kartel . . . NOT because he did it or not. I was not there. But simply because I cannot and refuse to understand why a big man, who claim he is a bad man, can chat so much. Now whether you are a Kartel fan or not, hate him, like him, whatever, you must first admit his stupidity for talking so darn much on the phone. Who does that??? Pre Kartel trial? Almost everybody. Post-Kartel conviction, I think everyone is more careful or should be. The bottom line is something happened. Who did it? Now that is problem. Who orchestrated it? I am not God, I don’t know. But something happened that someone did not like, and Lizard was killed. The only thing anyone, anyone can do that is justifiable is pray for his sons that they will be head strong to understand when they are older, the consequences of behaviors and the end results of choices. We all have it. Some times we make mistakes and can redeem ourselves. But other times, we sometimes think ourselves invincible, keep making the mistakes, and become our own enemy. Stop the bickering on social media. Say a word for Jamaica and its entertainers who have obviously put money and notoriety ahead of making a positive impact on our youths. The songs that are being sung today by these young artistes, would make Bob Marley cringe in his grave. Be Blessed!

    • Next . . . Kartel entered the system at the Trial Court. He was found guilty. He will now move to Appeals Court and then if he is found guilty and the conviction STAYS, then his lawyer may then take it to the highest court. In New York, this is The District Court. In the 49 other states it is referred to as the Supreme Court.

      Dafuq!?!

      Where to start??! Since I don’t know what the f#ck I’m talking about, I’ll start here…the highest court in New York State is the New York Court of Appeals. There are four district courts serving the New York state. The United States district courts handles both civil and criminal cases. The Court of Appeal is the highest appellate court you will find in Jamaica. If Kartel loses there, then he will have nowhere else to turn.

      …kartel was arrested, tried, convicted and is now serving time on the island of Jamaica, not the neighborhood of Jamaica in the borough of Queens New York. FFS

  2. One more case to knock this appeal and techa home

  3. It seems the govt case fell apart, it have to be a reason they drop the charges.
    Kartel might just have a chance of winning his appeal.

  4. Well would you look at that; I was always interested in how this case would play out because it was hard to predict. Breath of fresh air for them, and a blessing from Jah for Gaza Slim

    • Shwas ready to set up Addi, ohh she showed her true colors

      • You forgot her onstage interview?? Wow. That lil b–tch was ready to sink the whole ting to save her ass, denied gaza and tried to pass as church girl,sh**tin her pants. She was def not down w kartel on this one. Lucky she got off,but hes luckier cuz she sho her true colors

      • Andrew, I just think she was very scared of the possibility of doing jail time. I am also very happy she got her charges dropped. I believe they dropped the charges against them because their evidence is weak. I don’t think it’s because of the appeal case. The govt only giving that excuse so it don’t look bad for them. Also with the charges gone the appeal might have a chance.

    • U still alive?:)

      • Wow so happy for Vanessa, hope she learned from this. I was so hoping she wouldn’t have to do time. What the haters have to say now??!!

      • Let’s wait and see……dwl

      • Well, this hater is saying it ain’t over ’till the skinny gyal swallows the load!

      • You are a crackhead. A pegina EncycloPill popping Cracker Jack. Your brain is like an airplane going down with no pilot. Its ALL OVER THE PLACE. Your brain most very very very likely looks like a burnt feather.

      • The stuff you come up with. dwl

      • Hahahahahaha! LMAO!

        Translation: GJ can’t compete!

        Stay in school, fool! Learn how to read, write, and express your ideas in print. Come back when you’ve graduated elementary school. Your schoolyard taunts won’t work here, child!
        TFF

      • Compete? Where the phuk is there a competition feather head? Last time I checked this is a simple comment section for a simple story posted on a website. Do u even remember what the original story/post is about when you go on your attention deficit disorder rants about some encyclopedia page 988888099 that nobody gives a phuk about on urban islandz. Your a troll who gets off on going around trying to prove to yourself that your above everyone you get into it with over pointless rubbish. Like phuk, are you like the champion of the comments at the bottom of internet posts? Your a phucking super duper nerd clown. Your a comment section troll. Do everyone a favor who mistakingly gets trapped into reading your encyclopedia columns and go find yourself some pu$$y. It’s what women have between there legs but you definitely know that. I bet you don’t know what it feels like though you poor gay virgin. Please go find some pu$$y. Give your eyes and your computer a rest. Rub it.. Put your fingers in it.. Lick it if you want to.. Than stick your pencil it it!! Take the leap of faith and leave your encyclopedia at home brother. It’s ok if you look like a cross between katt Williams and Michael Jackson. There’s fudged up looking malicious weird as phuk pu$$y out there that will welcome you with open legs. Just wear a helmet. Good luck. Annoying feather head.

      • Daayaaaam! One bloated paragraph consisting of 245 words saying nothing much at all!

        Good for you! I can’t wait to see what you come up with once you get out of the fifth grade.

      • Your a phucking parrot. Don’t bother communicating with me. You have nothing to say other than random rubbish. Phucking bird. Hush yourself. Let me say it clearer for you, shut the phuk up you phucking parrot.

      • Yup! That’s real damn bright of you! Telling someone to shut up on the internet! How do you think you’re going to achieve this lofty goal of yours? Will you continue to rant ad nauseum until I capitulate? Is that what you’re hoping for?!

        rttsnrmfsoakhpbilsfh

        Good luck with that!

      • Shut the phuk up nerd.

      • How’s that working out for ya?
        LMFAO!!!

      • Shut the phuk up clown

      • Didn’t your momma ever tell you that cryin’ will do you no good?
        *chuckles*

      • Wtf r u talking about? Get a life u phucking nerd. Rant? You are a rant. Bichh

      • If you have to ask, you probably wouldn’t understand if I told you.

      • Shut the phuk upp clown

      • I think I just made a grown man cry!
        Get off your knees, brah. I don’t play that way.

      • What the phuk are you talking about? Are you high? Shut the phuk up CLOWN.

      • You keep repeating the same old thing! Are you daft, man? Are you really that much of a f#ckwit? Do you not see what’s going on here? Do I have to spell it out for you?

        I’ll give you one more chance to figure it out. If you fail…if you ask the same old stupid question I will pry open your idiotic mouth with my bare hands and chit down your dumb f#ckin’ throat!

      • Put the crack pipe down and shut the phuk up clown. You phucking goat.

      • Wow Zig, LOL.

      • Save that “ghost” load for some chick counting calories.roflmao

      • You’re playing, salena! At 5 calories a load, you would have to swallow 22 loads to equal the calories found in one average-sized mango!
        I dunno ’bout your men, but I ain’t giving up more than 15 calories in one sitting. 15 calories can easily be burned off simply by trying to get out of the restraints I placed you in.

      • Let’s say some dude told me to open wide for an oral cancer screening and he inadvertently sling shot his load into my gaping mouth,I imagine it hitting the back of my throat ricocheting sending him hurling through a bay window. dwl

        By the way, I meant the person likely to swallow is some chick who’s a 400ibs sumo wrestler and it’s her first day on Atkins. :)

      • Can you appreciate an artistic rendering of a bleached butthole? Don’t mind me dwl.

      • WTF!?! LOL!
        …and they call me crazy??!

      • Dwl everyone is so darn serious. :)

      • There no way ZiggyFag would even be capable of any such things. What kind of girl would make love to an encyclopedia? Chick would be tryin to sex and this guy would be screaming out useless random facts like he on Jeopordy. Girl be like “Ohhhh Ziggy small dickey.. Your so”…… ZigFig be like “Who is Rev. Peter J Gomes”

      • roflmao …dwl

      • How so very interesting!!! Some UI f#ckwit has fantasies about me having sex with women, talking chit about my dick size!

        *chuckles*

        GJ, I’m telling you now, there’s no way your lips get to touch my meat plow. I don’t care how much you f#cking beg me, it ain’t goin’ to happen! Never!

      • You have nothing to say to me. Your a phucking bird. Run along to one of your no life comment section wars you phucking parrot.

      • Whatever do you mean by that?! I’ve got plenty to say to you. I’d like to start by telling you to stay off my D-I-C-K. Keep your mind as far away from my muthaf#ckn’ appendage as humanly possible. Are we clear, Gaaaay Jay?

        I’m not saying this because I can’t handle sparing with a closet homosexual like yourself. No! I’m telling you this because aside from your one word post, BOSS…everything else you’ve written so far has pertained to me.
        It’s obvious to me that you have some kind of unrequited bromance going on here. I’m just trying to spare you from a world of butt hurt.

        Proceed at your own peril!

      • Stop wasting your time writing me. I don’t even get through your pointless no life meaningless encyclopedia columns. Shut the phuk up nerdboy.

      • Yeah…I’ll get right on that!
        *chuckles*
        I understand you now. You can only digest information in small bite-sized chunks.
        I think it would be best if you put the crack pipe down before responding to any of my comments. No one should live their entire life with the attention span of a pre-schooler.

      • Shut the phuk up clown.

      • You never did answer my question! How’s that working out for ya, fool?
        HAHAHAHAHAHAHA LMAO!

      • U know that big toilet I told u I had? I fell in it and I pulled my cock. Was standing up while droppin a deuce. Slipped on a bar of cake soap. Pulled my soldier. Got a cast on. I was cruising around urbanislandz on my phone while this all was happening and as I fell, I threw my phone it bounce off the cake soap exploded up in the air hit me in the eye and I pass out. I woke up with phone in toilet, pulled cock and a white eye. Hit the hospital.

      • You have a vivid imagination….you and that cock of yours. roflmao

    • Yup! You may exhale now!
      Just 34 years, 5 months and 17 days left before he can apply for parole.

      I bet you’re just like shorty…you’re going to wait for him, right?

      • Badmind a beat u bad inna yuh head dont it?? teacher soon free man…

      • You got me all twisted…you appear to be totally confused, a decidedly stupid kartel apologist, and ignorant to the bone. I am none of that!

        Look, son! Your boy is no teacher unless what you want to learn is how to murder people without getting away with it.
        *chuckles*
        Other than that, I really don’t know what to say to someone as brain dead as you who wishes to see a convicted murderer go free?!?

        (SMFH)

      • Dwrl… Badmind likkle harder man…. dwrl

      • Reasoning with an idiot like you makes about as much sense as two men trying to make a baby.
        F#ck off, and F#ck you!

      • U can go campaign bout it badmind some more

      • Every chance I get…every kartel article I see…I will plant my flag on it and claim it as my own just like I’ve claimed this one.
        Who among you have the skillz to stop me??
        Is there no one else??

      • what corruption happen in the trial shall be overturn badmind read this an go study bou law before u call someone a stupid Appeals court decisions turn on the record, which documents what happened in the trial court. The record contains the pleadings (plaintiff’s complaint and defendant’s answer), pre-trial motions, a transcript of what occurred during trial, the exhibits put into evidence, post-trial motions, and any discussion with the judge that did not take place “off the record.” The success of an appeal therefore depends on what occurred at trial. If an attorney failed to get critical, available evidence into the record, or to object to something prejudicial, the opportunity to do so is lost – See more at: http://litigation.findlaw.com/filing-a-lawsuit/appealing-a-court-decision-or-judgment.html#sthash.y49RgRMW.dpuf

      • Video Evidence, text message about murdering the man.Eye witness evidence, what more do you want!? Kartel trial was fair. Nobody can turn a blind eye to the blatant evidence that Kartel participated in this murder! Only a sick mind can support him !

      • 1. A VIDEO evidence that doesn’t show the man getting murder.

        2. Voice-note that has been manipulate with, only thing the lawyer should have done is invite a audio expert to analyze it from america.

        3. Text message that has been tampered with, Digicel information technology managing staff couldn’t tell if the text messages was coming from such phone.

        4. A witness that come before the court to tell lies, the only thing is left is a psychological lawyer to break into his lies an bring out the truth.

        These evidence cannot convict a accuse murderer.

      • you have to learn to let it go. The man is guilty. The text messages evidence came from Digicell not from the cell phone. Digicell’s record of the text messages were presented to the court. Whether someone made calls or tampered with phone does not change the recorded evidence or times tamps that predate the time law enforcement had possession of Vybez Kartel cellular phone.

        The text messages were recorded from the Wireless carrier outside the reach of law enforcement. How do you explain that? Who sends a text message talking about “we chop the bwoy lizard fine fine. They will never find him…..from since you do crime when did forensic team get involved etc.”.

        an innocent man would not be involved in that type of conversation

      • I am not holding on to anything. The evidence is presented is weak it is not enough to convict a accuse! The time-frame that is suggested about the text messages is not prior to the time the accuse was incarcerated. However, any evidence that has been tampered with should not admitted into the court. If the lawyer wanted to prove the accuse is innocent, forensic team has to be invited to prove the prosecution wrong. A witness that wrote a letter to the public defender indicating that he was force to go before the court. E.g if the text message was recorded by the Wireless carrier. the wireless carrier should be able to be more informative about the text messages.

      • what corruption happen in the trial shall be overturn badmind read this an go study bou law before u call someone a stupid Appeals court decisions turn on the record, which documents what happened in the trial court. The record contains the pleadings (plaintiff’s complaint and defendant’s answer), pre-trial motions, a transcript of what occurred during trial, the exhibits put into evidence, post-trial motions, and any discussion with the judge that did not take place “off the record.” The success of an appeal therefore depends on what occurred at trial. If an attorney failed to get critical, available evidence into the record, or to object to something prejudicial, the opportunity to do so is lost

      • Here are his grounds for his appeal as follows;

        * Unfair trial: That the evidence and testimonies upon which the learned trial judge relied to direct the jury and subsequently led to my conviction lacked facts and credibility, thus rendering the verdict unsafe in the circumstance.

        *chuckles*
        I guess that’s why he tried to bribe a juror, and had Gaza Slim file a false claim to the police about Lizard tried to rob her.
        DWL

        * Lack of evidence: during the trial the prosecution failed to present the court any form of substantive material evidence, that is, scientific material, or DNA evidence to link me to the alleged crime.

        *LMAO*

        Little does he know that the science was in the voice recordings he left on cell phones. Little does he know that many have been locked away for hundreds of years based on circumstantial evidence alone.
        TFF

        * Misidentified by witness: That the main prosecution witness wrongfully identified me as person or among any persons who committed the alleged crime.

        Again…those voice recording don’t lie.

        * Miscarriage of justice: That based on the evidence in respect of a time date, the court failed to recognise the fact that I could not have committed the alleged crime.

        Is this guy for real??! In America they have a boy named Charles Manson who is serving life for murders he was not present at. WTF does kartel take the law for…a joke??!

        By the time 2049 rolls around, it is my hope kartel will be too old to care if he’s free, or behind bars.

        Cya then!!!

      • Did follow the trail?? Did you comprend the justice system of how corrupted the judge were In a court of law or a trial The jury weighs this evidence and determines the facts of the case they actually came out with a not guilty verdict the judge should charge for conspiracy an lose his seat a judge is not responsible for a verdict into a trail a judge is not suppose to force a jury to come up with a verdict a judge should control activity in the court room.

      • That’s bloody amazing! Your argument defies all logic, yet there you are clinging to it like an infant to a teat. You expect a system which is corrupt to release kartel because kartel thinks they made mistakes in his trial??!
        Gat Dayaaaam!
        Ignorance should never be worn as a badge of honor.

      • lol… you need to go back to school i am now realizing You actually get the honor of stupidity go back nd read and look how contradicting you are. Did you actually read what i wrote? A corrupt system is a stem from poor government. it is the lawyer jobs to justify a corrupt system In fact they were to many doubt in the trail the appeal will revise the transcript and have to let him go once there are doubts into a case you have to acquit there is no other option. Vybz Kartel lawyers knew in their very heart they didn’t fought hard enough. The prosecutors in the case were really smart they spice up the crown so badly to make the suspects looks guilty. now go read a book an get more knowledge my friend other than badmind a next man that has more money than you. lol stupid ni**a.

      • First thing you should know…money doesn’t make the man…the man makes the money! If money was the best indicator of character then everybody would have voted for Mitt ‘the millionaire’ Romney in America’s last election!
        Ever ask yourself how come kartel and all his money couldn’t keep kartel out of prison?? Conversely…ever question why a guy like me who has a pittance of what kartel has will never see the inside of a prison?? I’ll give you a clue; it’s ain’t about how much money you have, it’s all about what you choose to do with it.
        Your kartel chose to become the leader of a group of criminals, that same group who are paying the price in time for doing the crime! Meanwhile, I’m not even 30 yet and I’m planning for my retirement!

        I would like you to search the globe for a system that isn’t corrupt! All you would need to do to prove your point is to show me one irreproachable system of government. You have 196 countries to pick from. Good luck!

        There is doubt in every trial, it is the job of the defense lawyer to question the evidence and raise a fair amount of “reasonable doubt” in the minds of the jurors. The keyword here is reasonable. The fact that kartel is serving a 35-year-to-life sentence tells me his lawyers didn’t raise enough of that kind of doubt.

      • (SNAP FINGERS)-“LOGICAL ARGUMENT” i might have to give you a vote up for that, some i might disagree but whatever.

        Every country are corrupt in some what way but there are boundaries to corruption and the way you approach it.

        Lets not mention japan and china in my argument because those country are way ahead of us.

        The united states of america is a professional justice system they leave no evidence behind 90% of the judges, jurors ,detectives, FBI and CIA etc; in america are professional. now, compare that to Jamaican judge, jurors and the police, there is no comparison. Jamaican justice system are not fully train and knowledgeable to commit themselves to their job. That’s why the people of society always crying for justice and also bashing their character and there are getting charge of conspiracy government getting charge of corruption police getting charge of bribery and crime and the list goes on and on. The government of Jamaica promoting in competent judges, jurors and detective Did you know a man can kill a innocent man and gets lock away in jail, gets bail, go to court an nothing comes out of it?? Those are the lawyers are fully train knows every inch of a high profile case that convince jurors who are incompetent and corrupt.

        lol…When was the last time a REPUBLICAN WON a election??
        REPUBLICAN are rich and all for themselves they have no influence on the people of america

        back to Vybz Kartel now; Vybz Kartel wasn’t locked way for crime they locked away Vybz Kartel for his influence on society the government don’t want anyone to have more power over their influence on the people who is working hard to give them money. the government want to have the latest car module the big house on the hill Thats why they were trying kill Mavado an trying to get into a argument with chronixx recently. The government dont want no ghetto bwoy fe come run Jamaica.

      • Wow! You write very brilliant and intelligent

      • Lol he copy/paste everything he posts,troll is known for that

      • Dude said “money don’t makes a man… man makes money” that’s one of the stupid term I’ve ever read…lol. and the funniest thing about it senseless uneducated seems to amaze by him.smh…

        DWRL….

      • Hahahahaha! Senseless and uneducated are two literal “terms” which describe you to a ‘T’. Following your line of reasoning one might be made to believe a man making $42,000 a year is less of a man than one who makes $42 million a year.
        Obama will make $400,000 this year in salary. In 2013 Kanye West earned almost $12 million. According to your logic, Kanye is more of a man than the President of the United States?! WTF!?!
        I stand by what I said. Men make money! Money does not make the man.

        Seriously! you should get out more often…see how the real world works. You will find it’s nothing like cyberspace.

      • Ok??? Let me lay out a example of how foolish you are to put that term into a statement.

        When a man salary is 12 million a year; What exactly he does with that money?

        lol…. When an influential artiste makes so much money he actually uses it to invest in himself to make him a relevant individual in society, he would surely branch his business to be more enormous.

        Barrack Obama is a very good president despite the Isis threat, he actually cut his salary for the american economy to strive. I am 100% sure no leader of Jamaica would have made such sacrifice.

      • Dude, I don’t know what point you’re attempting to make here, but it was a huge fail!

        Did you just claim that Kanye West is relevant?! LMFAO!!!
        I’ll tell you exactly what Mr. West did when he got rich…he got himself a white girl. Maybe you missed that part??!

        You even contradict yourself by shooting your own foot off. The artist makes a huge amount of money, and invests it in himself. The President makes a fraction of that and invests it in the American economy. I don’t know about you, but I would rather have a guy like Obama in my corner than a self-serving narcissistic like Kanye West.

      • In my mind. i think your one of the most pursuit stupid person trying to be intelligent.

        Kanye West is a Musician/Entrepreneur, not a political leader, Mr West pays tax just like American citizens do.

        so zag Your saying that if you have a business you not going to use it to make your life better? smh DWRL “STUPID”

        your a big clown i see why people see you amusing?

        hahahhahahaha

        your trying to be intelligent but you are a absolute clown.

      • Wow! You are thick in the idiotic sense of the word. People who make that kind of money and don’t give back nothing in terms of philanthropic endeavors will never have my respect or admiration.

        That’s not what the argument is about, tho…I said, men make money…money does not make the man. I will not allow you to go off on another tangent while bringing a straw-man argument in as your only defense. Deal with what I wrote, not with what you think I wrote.

        Here, chew on this in the meantime…Oprah has given $300 million to charity. The Kanye West Foundation gave a paltry $583 dollars to charity in 2009. Please explain why Kanye’s charitable foundation is no longer up and running!

      • lol… your straying from one subjective point to another.

        dwl… Ask anyone of your co-worker, classmates; or anyone that surround you. You will see how stupid your opinion is.

        “What would they do with their money when its earned?”

        Kanye West is a Millionaire indeed, but lets put it this way, He actually gives what he has to offer, i will not get in too much into his personal lifestyle. Think about it as a business man, as kanye; Do you really think he should take up another responsibility on his head.

        Kanye West is a United State Citizens. Charity is something you donate to help people uplift their lifestyle.

        Its like having a extra money on your table, and you decide to give a crackhead who is homeless. not all the time you will be able to help him. but your trying to uplift yourself as well. When you gives, nothing comes back as secondary.

      • lol… your straying from one subjective point to another.

        dwl… Ask anyone of your co-worker, classmates; or anyone that surround you. You will see how stupid your opinion is.

        “What would they do with their money when its earned?”

        Kanye West is a Millionaire indeed, but lets put it this way, He actually gives what he has to offer, i will not get in too much into his personal lifestyle. Think about it as a business man, as kanye; Do you really think he should take up another responsibility on his head?

        Kanye West is a United State Citizens. Charity is something you donate to help people uplift their lifestyle.

        Its like having a extra money on your table, and you decide to give a crackhead who is homeless. not all the time you will be able to help him. but your trying to uplift yourself as well. When you gives, nothing comes back as secondary.

      • lol… your straying from one subjective point to another.

        Hey! How do you expect me to take you seriously when you accuse me of doing the exact same thing you’re doing??!

        dwl… Ask anyone of your co-worker, classmates; or anyone that surround you. You will see how stupid your opinion is.

        Therein lies the real difference between you and me! Your view(s) of the world are mostly influenced by the opinions of others, you need other people’s approval…you rely on others to validate your very existence. I can not in all honesty say the same about myself.
        Hit me with the facts, or GTFO of my face! That’s been my motto ever since I crushed that little white boy way back in the sixth grade over a stupid argument about “man never went to the moon.” Facts don’t lie! People do!

        “What would they do with their money when its earned?”

        Well, that would depend on which “they” you’re talking about. From Alicia Keyes, to Bono, Bill Gates, George Clooney, all the up to Warren Buffet…these folks have used their hard-earned money to help make a difference in the world. The other ‘they’ who shall remain nameless, tend to spend their hard-earned money on themselves. Never do they give one thought to giving back anything to a World which has given them so much.

        Kanye West is a Millionaire indeed, but lets put it this way, He actually gives what he has to offer, i will not get in too much into his personal lifestyle. Think about it as a business
        man, as kanye; Do you really think he should take up
        another responsibility on his head.

        Kanye only gives to himself and those around him. He couldn’t care less about those who Leona Hemsley once called ‘little people’. I dunno…call me crazy, but I believe those with the wealth, especially Black folks, should give back to the very communities that helped them to become rich in the first place. Is that too much to ask?!

      • That’s a really good comprehensive job of yours, you actually did your homework.

        yet, you fail to understand the difference between facts and opinion.

        My views are mainly coming from society, how its maintain and how people react to negative to positive.

        lol…If you feel its not important to learn from society views and logic that’s your error of thinking.

        its good to give back to the people who made you who you are, but lets not drop the pin. Kanye had a foundation that couldn’t not continue because its failed to. People like yourself questions why it fail to continue.

        A man who work very hard to feed his family is not guarantee to give back in terms of philanthropic, his choice is to drive his business to motivate people to do better in society. These people who motivate people to work hard and smart is; Steve jobs, Mark zukerberg, Bill gates, Larry page, Eric Schmidt, Etc…

        The person you mention in your statement, there are doing a good job. However, i would recommend these very same people that mention to emphasis these communities to be independent and self-discipline, In audition to invest in education for the very people who suffers in that same community can become a better environment. Think about black people who suffers daily, do you think its their choice to be in the slums who lives on charity?? every strong rich human race should come together to transform black people who suffers daily, sadly their judge by the content of their skin and not their character.

      • My views are mainly coming from society, how its maintain and how people react to negative to positive.
        lol…If you feel its not important to learn from society views and logic that’s your error of thinking.

        HUH!?! 2.1 billion Christians, 1.6 billion Muslims, and 14 million of the Jewish faith have not been able to convince me that an omniscient being is the cause of all this that we call life. One 9th grade biology teacher proved to me all that I can see, hear, touch, smell, and taste has absolutely nothing to do with the delusions of Bronze-aged goat herders from the Middle East. Am I to follow the 1-in-4 Americans who believes the Sun revolves around the Earth, or the loons who believe in witchcraft, ESP and the supernatural??!

        I was born into and live in the natural world. I need facts, just the facts…and nothing but the facts to formulate my opinions about the world and the universe. I can not stress enough the idiocy of harboring a belief in things which you have no evidence for!

        its good to give back to the people who made you who you are, but lets not drop the pin. Kanye had a foundation that couldn’t not continue because its failed to. People like yourself questions why it fail to continue.

        There you go again with your strawman argument! I never questioned why Kanye’s charity went belly up! I only asked you to explain why! I’ve already alluded to the most likely cause of his charity’s dissolution.
        GTFO with that BS about me questioning the why!

        A man who work very hard to feed his family is not guarantee to give back in terms of philanthropic, his choice is to drive his business to motivate people to do better in society. These people who motivate people to work hard and smart is; Steve jobs, Mark zukerberg, Bill gates, Larry page, Eric Schmidt, Etc..

        Jobs donated millions to build a children’s medical center in California, as well as giving a small fortune away in the fight against Aids. Zuckerberg held the title as the most charitable philanthropist in 2013. Since 2000, Gates has donated 28 billion to charity…what is your point??!

        Think about black people who suffers daily, do you think its their choice to be in the slums who lives on charity??

        Those 22 words tells me that you have no idea what philanthropy is. That’s ok! I realize I am not speaking to one of the greatest minds on the subject. Nonetheless, to answer your question I would have to say, f#ck yeah!

        We live and die through and by the choices we make. I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth, and neither were my parents. Like my parents, I have made choices to keep my Black @$$ off the poverty plantation.

        No drugs, no kids before marriage, no crime, plenty of education, a healthy amount of respect for those around me, and a wee bit of ambition will get me to where I plan to go. It sure the f#ck ain’t no slum, brah!

        every strong rich human race should come together to transform black people who suffers daily, sadly their judge by the content of their skin and not their character.

        LMAO! Sorry for laughing, but your naiveté is hilarious! The strong prey on the weak, the rich exploit the poor. Skin color matters very little in that equation. The way society is structured it requires a growing underclass to keep those in power swimming in an ocean of wealth. Without the poor, the rich would have no one to rob. As I have already mentioned, it’s just the chosen few who will give something back to the betterment of society at large.

      • lol… ohhh!! here comes The Mr “man makes money” “money

        doesnt make a man”…Dude said i am naiveté…hahahaha!!! Your known as a parrot who repeats everything what people said.

        which is, parrot is one of the most dumbest animal on earth….

        people know you as copy an paste your summarizing everything i says an putting it into your stupid terms…and your calling me a naiveté?? how dare you!….dwrl. such a funny dude every time i see you write i really have to laugh.

        LMAO!!! YOU ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.

        Here, let me try what u doing!

        Where are you going religious views??

        As i say again you makes no sense When you switch from one conclusion to the next.

        Ok. if there are no facts, please read and obtain a more wider knowledge and come back to me for logical reasoning.

        Thank you!

        HUH!?! 2.1 billion Christians, 1.6 billion Muslims, and 14 million of the Jewish faith have not been able to convince me that an omniscient being is the cause of all this that we call life. One 9th grade biology teacher proved to me all that I can see, hear, touch, smell, and taste has absolutely nothing to do with the delusions of Bronze-aged goat herders from the Middle East. Am I to follow the 1-in-4 Americans who believes the Sun revolves around the Earth, or the loons who believe in witchcraft, ESP and the supernatural??!

        Let me open your mind. I am going to teach you. Every country has a religious base section. Muslim fight for their truth by engage in gruesome activity. so, in other-words if your not praising allah and mohammed, you will be decease in their views. Christians is a spiritual aspect that has social values to bring peace and love in the world. Jewish is Israel people living and praising on historical factors. Over the years in different dimension, Americans and the British always trying to seek world power. Spain tried but failed to do so.

        Those 22 words tells me that you have no idea what philanthropy is. That’s ok! I realize I am not speaking to one of the greatest minds on the subject. Nonetheless, to answer your question I would have to say, f#ck yeah!

        your referring to yourself as one of stupid individual that stated “man makes money” “money does not makes a man”

        What a stupid person to laugh at himself like this!

        LMAO! Sorry for laughing, but your naiveté is hilarious! The strong prey on the weak, the rich exploit the poor. Skin color matters very little in that equation. The way society is structured it requires a growing underclass to keep those in power swimming in an ocean of wealth. Without the poor, the rich would have no one to rob. As I have already mentioned, it’s just the chosen few who will give something back to the betterment of society at large

        every Black human race going to always hold himself down. such as, not accepting another human race views on a psychological aspect, thinking selfishly, not making good choices. THE RICH HAS NOTHING TO WITH THAT.

        and, another stupid term which describe yourself “The rich exploit the poor” hahaha…its actually a combination my friend, “the rich live to receive from the poor and the poor live to receive from the rich”. I am quite convince “every rich individual was coming from a poor background” lol… The poor is not utilizing on self development such as, opportunity that the rich is creating to get rid of the poor background that is why the poor is always going to remain the same.

        Lack of Comprehensive writing. please read above to get the full understanding!

        We live and die through and by the choices we make. I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth, and neither were my parents. Like my parents, I have made choices to keep my Black @$$ off the poverty plantation

        A man who work very hard to feed his family is not guarantee to give back in terms of philanthropic, his choice is to drive his business to motivate people to do better in society. These people who motivate people to work hard and smart is; Steve jobs, Mark zukerberg, Bill gates, Larry page, Eric Schmidt, Etc..

        We live into a information technology world These men i stated has a BUSINESS THAT PERPETUATE TECHNOLOGY TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES, INTUITIONS, HELP PEOPLE TO INTERACT TO EXPAND INTO THE WIDER WORLD. LIVING INTO A INFORMATION AGE THE POOR CLASS IS MORE ABLE TO OBTAIN GREAT KNOWLEDGE AND SENSIBILITY TO UPLIFT THEIR STANDARD OF LIVING.

        Jobs donated millions to build a children’s medical center in California, as well as giving a small fortune away in the fight against Aids. Zuckerberg held the title as the most charitable philanthropist in 2013. Since 2000, Gates has donated 28 billion to charity…what is your point??!

        its a petty you don’t understand society; Bill gates donate money to charity example:This is reason Jobs donated as you stated.

        Therefore, Mr gate donate to send scientist an doctors to investigate the Ebola virus. do you have any idea how much money Mr gate is receiving from that donation?? Rich people do not give into anything as a lost.. that is my point! and please learn how to summarize sentences.

      • “and, another stupid term which describe yourself “The rich exploit the poor” hahaha…its actually a combination my friend, “the rich live to receive from the poor and the poor live to receive from the rich”. I am quite convince “every rich individual was coming from a poor background” lol… The poor is not utilizing on self development such as, opportunity that the rich is creating to get rid of the poor background that is why the poor is always
        going to remain the same.”

        (SMFH)

        Wealth distribution is not an equitable thing in the world we live in. The poor get shafted while the rich gets richer. That is an irrefutable fact.
        When you were born, there was no guarantee in place which claimed life was going to be fair. In South Africa’s diamond mines poor Blacks risk their lives to fill rich white folk’s coffers with more wealth. In America the poor and disenfranchised are used for cannon fodder on the battlefields of the world. In Jamaica where poverty is rampant, a pound and a crown is spent on skin-whitening bleaches and hair hats. Pick any urban center in America and you will find scores
        of unemployable men and women selling drugs to finance the lifestyles of uber-rich South American drug lords.

        There is no give and take between the haves and the have-nots, for the most part there’s only the take.

      • WHAT ARE YOU IMPLYING HERE??

        Wealth distribution is not an equitable thing in the world we live in. The poor get shafted while the rich gets richer. That is an irrefutable fact.
        When you were born, there was no guarantee in place which claimed life was going to be fair. In South Africa’s diamond mines poor Blacks risk their lives to fill rich white folk’s coffers with more wealth. In America the poor and disenfranchised are used for cannon fodder on the battlefields of the world. In Jamaica where poverty is rampant, a pound and a crown is spent on skin-whitening bleaches and hair hats. Pick any urban center in America and you will find scores
        of unemployable men and women selling drugs to finance the lifestyles of uber-rich South American drug lords.

        There is no give and take between the haves and the have-nots, for the most part there’s only the take.

        *CHUCKLES*

        *SMFH*

        WOW!!! THOSE WORD TELLS ME YOU LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. GO BACK TO SCHOOL AND DO YOUR RESEARCH, ITS NOT A GOOD THING TO JUMP TO CONCLUSION WITH NOTHING BEHIND YOUR EXPRESSION; RATHER THAN ACCUSING A STUDENT THAT HE IS IN NEED OF AN EDUCATION IT MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID.

        ANYWAY,

        THE WORLD IS THE SHAPE AS A CIRCLE, MEANING DON’T EXPECT IT TO BE A LEVEL WORLD. AS WE GROW OLD WE WONDER WHY LIFE IS SO UNFAIR, IN THIS WORLD YOU HAVE TO ABLE TO BE SMART TO SURVIVE. OTHERWISE, YOU WILL CONTINUE BELIEVE THAT LIFE IS UNFAIR.

        THERE MUST BE PEOPLE THAT LIVE A PARTICULAR, STANDARD OF LIVING SUCH AS; THE POOR, CRIMINAL, DRUGS LORD,THE RICH, THE INNOCENT, UNEMPLOYED, UNDERCLASS, DOCTOR, LAWYER, THE TEACHER, ALL THE PROFESSION YOU CAN THINK OF. THE UNEMPLOYED PERSON MADE A DECISION. FINANCE THEIR LIFESTYLE?? You need to elaborate on that statement. THEY ARE SOPHISTICATED INDIVIDUAL THAT OPERATE A CARTEL THAT FINANCE THEMSELVES AN THEIR ECONOMY. SOUTH AMERICAN PEOPLE IS HIGHLY CORRUPTED PEOPLE, THAT’S WHY THEY WILL ALWAYS BE NO. 1 IN CRIME AND VIOLENCE. THE RICH WILL CONSTANTLY THINKS CRITICAL TO MAKE HIMSELF AT THE UPPERMOST POINT WHILE THE POOR CLASS DEPEND ON THE RICH TO SURVIVE. PROVES: WHO PROVIDE OIL AND ELECTRICITY?? ANSWER = THE RICH, WHO PROVIDE FOOD FOR YOU TO EAT?? ANSWER = THE RICH, WHO PROVIDE TECHNOLOGY?? ANSWER = THE RICH, WHO CREATE JOBS?? ANSWER = THE RICH, WHO MADE YOU SLEEP ON A BED?? ANSWER = THE RICH, WHO MADE BOOKS TURNED OUT INTO A TECHNOLOGICAL FORM TO INTERACT WITH PEOPLE?? ANSWER = THE RICH. WHO VENTURE A LARGE AMOUNT OF INTUITIONS?? ANSWER = THE RICH. THE POOR WILL ALWAYS REMAIN STAGNANT BECAUSE, THEY TEND TO BE DEPENDENT AND BELIEVE THERE ARE some ARE MIRACLES EXIST.

        Now these are facts and prove, need anything else??

        IN SOUTH AFRICA THESE MEN THAT FINDS GOLDS AN DIAMOND THESE MEN CLIMBS MOUNTAIN WITH A MAP THAT DIRECT WHEREVER THE HIGHLY RESERVE DIAMOND AND GOLD IS. THE PEOPLE OF SOUTH AFRICA MOST LIKELY DON’T KNOW WHERE THESE THINGS ARE, THE RESOURCES ARE LOW.

        IN JAMAICA TOURISM CLAIMS WE ARE RICH BECAUSE WHAT OF THEY SEE AND EXPERIENCE. POVERTY IS EVERYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD MUCH MORE ONE OF MOST EDUCATED COUNTRY THEY CALLED JAPAN.

        what’s next??

      • “every Black human race going to always hold himself down. such as, not accepting another human race views on a psychological aspect, thinking selfishly, not making good choices. THE RICH HAS NOTHING TO WITH THAT.”

        To totally ignore the systemic racism which has so many non-whites suffering under the jackboots of white supremacy leads me to believe you are the one in need of an education.

      • To totally ignore the systemic racism which has so many non-whites suffering under the jackboots of white supremacy leads me to believe you are the one in need of an education.

        HERE YOU GO AGAIN WITH NO POINTS PROVEN!

        A MAN WITH NO EXPRESSIVE WISDOM TELLING A MAN THAT IS WORKING ON A CAREER.

        is any sense is it your making in your statement??

        Where in the context i mention racism??

        DWRL!!!!

        Research and come back to me of an African american that own a successful business in the top 10 wealthiest person among the white average in the world.

      • “What a stupid person to laugh at himself like this!”

        You are not me! I am not you! I’m laughing at you…laughing at your weak grasp of the written English language. Laughing at your nym. Laughing at your unschooled thinking processes. Laughing at your milquetoast prose. Laughing at your reliance on others to validate your views of the world.
        I have a strong feeling that you will continue to give me reason to laugh at you.

      • You are not me! I am not you! I’m laughing at you…laughing at your weak grasp of the written English language. Laughing at your nym. Laughing at your unschooled thinking processes. Laughing at your milquetoast prose. Laughing at your reliance on others to validate your views of the world.
        I have a strong feeling that you will continue to give me reason to laugh at you.

        :-)***Round of applause***

        nice try!

        Your right. i am not you, your not me, and i am definitely not stupid as you to laugh at my grammar, contradiction, and punctuation marks. Which tells me, your not up to my level of education. Your not trying to prove anything to me! your proving to yourself that your smart when the public knows your a stupid individual.

      • “your referring to yourself as one of stupid individual that stated “man makes money” “money does not makes a man””

        If you’re going to quote me, at least be succinct. I wrote: money doesn’t make the man…the man makes the money! Put another way: Men make money! Money does not make the man.

        It is my opinion. I stand by it. If you don’t like it, you can either ignore it, or cram it up your cavernous @$$. Either way, I will not change it anytime soon!

      • If you’re going to quote me, at least be succinct. I wrote: money doesn’t make the man…the man makes the money! Put another way: Men make money! Money does not make the man.

        It is my opinion. I stand by it. If you don’t like it, you can either ignore it, or cram it up your cavernous @$$. Either way, I will not change it anytime soon!

        Lmaoo!!!

        Your opinion is stupid as you literally.

        case close!

      • “Jewish is Israel people living and praising on historical factors.”

        HUH!?!
        Look, you blithering idiot! Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are three branches from the same tree. They are what the world calls the Abrahamic religions. They all supposedly pray to the same God, but for centuries have been at each other’s throats locked in a perpetual duel of death.
        Between these three religions, more blood has been spilled in the name of their God(s) than a diminutive mind like yours could possibly fathom.
        They lie, they steal, they kill and brutalize human beings all in their God’s name.

      • Look, you blithering idiot! Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are three branches from the same tree. They are what the world calls the Abrahamic religions. They all supposedly pray to the same God, but for centuries have been at each other’s throats locked in a perpetual duel of death.
        Between these three religions, more blood has been spilled in the name of their God(s) than a diminutive mind like yours could possibly fathom.
        They lie, they steal, they kill and brutalize human beings all in their God’s name

        DWL!!! WHY THEY DID THOSE THINGS??

        Ancestors and off spring live to see their family was a Jewish an got influence to become a Jewish

        Your lack off expressive and comprehensive thoughts, check your facts before you speak!

        I SAID THE JEWISH LIVE ON HISTORICAL FACTORS. IN HISTORY THEY STATED JESUS WAS A JEW, THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IN CHRISTIANITY THEY ALSO STATED; THE LAW WAS DONE A WAY WITH, IN REGARDING THE TEN COMMANDMENTS However, they think its okay to lie, steal, kill, brutalize commit adultery THAT’S WHY YOU SEE SO MUCH HUMILIATION IN ALL DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BELIEF!

      • “Christians is a spiritual aspect that has social values to bring peace and love in the world.”

        Hahahahahaha! LMAO! …and you wonder why I call you naive! There’s over 2 billion Christians living on the planet. How much “peace and love” do you see in this world?

        (SMFH)

      • Hahahahahaha! LMAO! …and you wonder why I call you naive! There’s over 2 billion Christians living on the planet. How much “peace and love” do you see in this world?

        (SMFH)

        that’s what they put to the people. I must say there is none. The main reason the christian is the way it is Christianity fail to understand life and the worth of living. They always seems to do the same thing the bible tells them not to do. Christianity live to believe the bible is a guidance if it wasn’t exist the world would be into a worse chaos situation of how it is currently. what is written in the bible states; Love thyself and love thy neighbor. Christianity forsake the bible everywhere!

      • correction: 6:12 not 7:12

        What have you learned?

      • “Every country has a religious base section. Muslim fight for their truth by engage in gruesome activity. so, in other-words if your not praising allah and mohammed, you will be decease in their views.”

        Truth is not something which can be validated by the edge of a sword. Truth in all its beauty and clarity needs only an open mind and an attentive ear.
        I can not see what fanatical Muslims hope to accomplish by slaughtering people in the most barbaric ways!? I would have to be a damn fool to bend my knee in worship of a God who demands that I shed the blood of my fellow man in his name!

      • Muslim Live by the preaching of Mohammed. eventually, the Muslim is going to eliminate. go read Daniel chapter 11 verse 40 to 45.

        Then read Daniel chapter 12 verse 1 to verse 2.

        its obvious,

        you’ll get the full understanding of whats going on right now!

      • Sorry, punk! I stopped reading fiction in the tenth grade! Can you quote any non-fiction sources?
        pffffft! Thought so!

      • DWRL…. How can a obvious idiot doesn’t even reads the bible and claim he is smart??

        dwrl!!!

      • F#ckwit! I never said I didn’t read the Bible. I never claimed I was smart. I only claimed i was smarter than you.
        This is just another example of your f#ckwitted mind misinterpreting the written word. The Bible is pure fiction. No world wide flood, no rising from the dead, no turning water into wine, no beast with seven heads and ten horns, no Israelite nation enslaved in ancient Egypt, and certainly no virgin births.

        It was Genesis which proved the most damning evidence for a fictional God. In it he claims to have created the heavens and the Earth first! He then began to talk some gibberish about how the Earth was formless, empty and darkness was over the surface of the deep. Your God shows his true ignorance when he utters these words; “Let there be light,” and there was light. Those of us who know a little bit about cosmology see right through this lie. Our Sun which is a yellow dwarf star was created before the planets. As a matter of fact, the Earth and all the planets in our solar system were born out of the dust, rocks, and gas left over from the creation of our Sun.

        There’s no way the Earth could have been made prior to the creation of light/Sun.

        Your God goes further in showing his complete and utter stupidity when he claimed he, ‘formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.’ What a bunch of BS since human beings consist of almost 60% water.

        Yeah, fool. I know your Bible, and I see it for the work of fiction that it is.

      • ***CTFU***

        ASSUMPTION STATEMENT;

        F#ckwit! I never said I didn’t read the Bible. I never claimed I was smart. I only claimed i was smarter than you.
        This is just another example of your f#ckwitted mind misinterpreting the written word. The Bible is pure fiction. No world wide flood, no rising from the dead, no turning water into wine, no beast with seven heads and ten horns, no Israelite nation enslaved in ancient Egypt, and certainly no virgin births.

        ***CTFU***

        It was Genesis which proved the most damning evidence for a fictional God. In it he claims to have created the heavens and the Earth first! He then began to talk some gibberish about how the Earth was formless, empty and darkness was over the surface of the deep. Your God shows his true ignorance when he utters these words; “Let there be light,” and there was light. Those of us who know a little bit about cosmology see right through this lie. Our Sun which is a yellow dwarf star was created before the planets. As a matter of fact, the Earth and all the planets in our solar system were born out of the dust, rocks, and gas left over from the creation of our Sun.

        ***CTFU***
        There’s no way the Earth could have been made prior to the creation of light/Sun.

        no ELABORATION THAT OBTAIN FACTS IN YOUR OPINION!

        Your God goes further in showing his complete and utter stupidity when he claimed he, ‘formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.’ What a bunch of BS since human beings consist of almost 60% water.

        IF YOU disagree, what is your prove??

        Yeah, fool. I know your Bible, and I see it for the work of fiction that it is.

        I say again the bible is a guidance the bible FULFILL what occur in the PAST, what occur PRESENTLY, what is going to occur in the FUTURE.

        your CONTRADICTION STATEMENT BELOW;

        Sorry, punk! I stopped reading fiction in the tenth grade! Can you quote any non-fiction sources?

        question = WHEN someone stop reading, what comes to mind??

        answer = They doesn’t read anymore.

        WHENEVER I AM DOING, SCHOOL PRESENTATIONS, MEETINGS, CONFERENCES, I ALWAYS GET MY POINTS ACROSS TO MY AUDIENCE.

        ZIGGYZAGZAG STATEMENT; I never claimed I was smart. I only claimed i was smarter than you.

        ***ctfu***

        HERE ARE YOUR GROUNDS TO FOOL YOURSELF THAT YOU ARE SMARTER THAN ME.

        READ THE FOLLOWING SENTENCES REQUEST TO YOU;

        POINTS ARE MAJOR TO EXPRESSION, AND I SEE NONE IN YOUR STATEMENT.

        Your comprehensive writing is weak due to lack of understanding.

        Your argument is pure Defamation.

        YOUR COMING UP WITH WORDS TO FORMULATE A None-concrete sentence, THAT DOES NOT PROVE ANY UNDERSTANDING OR LOGIC.

        MY KNOWLEDGE IS BASE ON UNDERSTANDING, THEREFORE MY KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING WILL ALWAYS BE COHERENT.

        MY CLASSMATE AND SALENA TOLD ME TO LEAVE IT HERE.
        that speaks volume of a idiot you are.

        I will portray no further argument with your none existent facts.

        case is close

      • I wrote:

        Sorry, punk! I stopped reading fiction in the tenth grade! Can you quote any non-fiction sources?

        You retorted with:

        “question = WHEN someone stop reading, what comes to mind??
        answer = They doesn’t read anymore.”

        *chuckles*

        Dudette, I understand you are not the ripest banana on the tree! It’s the main reason why this thread is as big as it is…you simply do not comprehend the written English language!
        In your world when someone tells you they’ve stopped reading fiction, you believe they’ve stopped reading altogether.

        *chuckles louder*

      • I wrote:

        There’s no way the Earth could have been made prior to the creation of light/Sun.

        You Wrote:

        “no ELABORATION THAT OBTAIN FACTS IN YOUR OPINION!”

        LOL! It’s not my opinion! It is scientific fact! You know, like the fact the Earth has an iron core, the Sun is mostly made of hydrogen and helium, and they sit at a distance of 93 million miles away from each other. Oxygen, carbon, calcium, Nitrogen are byproducts of dying stars. Combined with hydrogen, these elements makes up ~95% of the human body. Yes! believe it or not, the oxygen and iron in your blood, the calcium in your teeth and bones, even the tiny traces of sulfur found in your hair, skin and nails were created in stars. WE are stardust. This is scientific fact because science works, you idiotic buffoon!!!

        LMFAO!!!

      • “Let me open your mind. I am going to teach you.”

        *chuckles*

        You should really be focusing on opening your own mind and teaching your own self before you even begin to think about teaching others.

        That’s what a real man would do!

      • “Thank you!”

        You ignorant inbred hillbilly!
        F#ck you!

      • dwrl!!! F#ck me?? dude! i am not a homosexual! you literally sick my stomach!

        your still not making any sense i gave you a homework to do go do it rather than sit there and disappoint yourself.

      • He is a sh!t brain

        I can guarantee he is going to continue his argument to make a proof of a sh!t brain

        case is close.

        dwl.

      • You really should leave it alone. H’een gon stop.

      • I wouldn’t stop either. Yeah, your right maybe i should leave it there. i don’t see the point of arguing with a Senseless individual!

      • This is a never-ending dance which is why I try to interject with randomness. You have MLK thinking hard. :)

      • well, Thank you so much, it really means alot to me. i always try to make my points proven in every statement. i am pretty sure your awesome too :)

      • LOL! You wouldn’t know what sense was even if it were bootf#cking you to death!

        Yup! Take heed of salena’s warning. Someone as intellectually stunted as you could never win any argument with me!

      • Retard! F#ckwit! Imbecile!
        LMFAO!!!
        When someone says “f#ck you” they are not asking if they can, what they want…what I want…is for you to f#ck your own self. Take your right hand and shove it up your anal sphincter, pull it out and repeat until your eyes begin water.
        Capish?

      • “Ok. if there are no facts, please read and obtain a more wider knowledge and come back to me for logical reasoning.”

        *facepalm*

        You use a logical fallacy in a desperate plea to engage me in a round of logical reasoning??! WTF!? LMAO!

        If there are no facts supporting the existence of a three-headed blue with purple stripes winged unicorn, then no matter how much ‘reading’ I do about said subject it will not bring said subject into existence!

        Nod your head if you understand the concept!

      • hmmm… boring an stupid.

        Unable Respond to a retard quote!

        try again!

      • It’s only stupid f#cking retards like you who don’t know the difference between the determiner “AN” & the conjunction “AND”.
        ROTFLMFAO!!!!

      • Incompetent statement!

        try again!

      • F#ckwit! Just because you say fire is cold, water is dry, and ice is hot doesn’t necessarily make it so.
        You’re just fool and you prove it every time you reply to my posts. I think it would be in your best interest to ignore anything I write. Unless you wish to keep showing your readers just what a dumb ignorant f#ckwitted ‘tard you are.

      • F#ckwit! Just because you say fire is cold, water is dry, and ice is hot doesn’t necessarily make it so.
        You’re just fool and you prove it every time you reply to my posts. I think it would be in your best interest to ignore anything I write. Unless you wish to keep showing your readers just what a dumb ignorant f#ckwitted ‘tard you are.

        Your obviously making a big fool of yourself.

        A simple sentence state; Your statement is Incompetent and commanded you to try again, shows how idiotic you are to agree and respond.

        Who is the Dumb ignorant here?? You’re agreeing to your statement is incompetent just by responding!

        lmaooo!!!

        Case is close no further argument!

      • “As i say again you makes no sense When you switch from one conclusion to the next.”

        Did you know that we as human beings can formulate
        thoughts and ideas and express those ideas/thoughts to others using the written language, or the spoken word?!
        Like I have told you on a previous post, you are failing at this innate human trait on a fundamental level.

      • I am sorry your statement is invalid!

        Try again Later when you’ve successfully obtain a conclusion!

      • *chuckles*
        I knew a f#ckwit like you wouldn’t understand simple truths like…
        using these tiny black letters so I can tell you where to go, which man to f#ck and how much your mom is really worth after midnight on a Saturday night.

      • Lmaoo!!! Its funny how u fail to understand how stupid you are doesn’t it?

        awww….Try Again!

      • Naw! I’m just going to flame you. I have come to the realization that you are less than a moron, and I will treat you as such from this day forward.

        Morons like you can not be reasoned with. Your kind only understands, f#ck you, F#ck off, go eat a d i c k, go s u c k your mumma, you’re g a y, and you’re stupid. So, I now promise to write in the language you are most familiar with!

        Do you understand, f#cktardo?

      • Invalid STATEMENT below;

        Naw! I’m just going to flame you. I have come to the realization that you are less than a moron, and I will treat you as such from this day forward.

        Morons like you can not be reasoned with. Your kind only understands, f#ck you, F#ck off, go eat a d i c k, go s u c k your mumma, you’re g a y, and you’re stupid. So, I now promise to write in the language you are most familiar with!

        Do you understand, f#cktardo?

        Dwrl!!! This fag is a Big DISAPPOINTMENT and merely obsess with nastiness his intention states the fact. I know your mom regret having you, Just kill yourself to ease away her pain, i think your whole family life would be happy.

        try again!

      • You laugh because you’re a buffoon. No big surprise there. It’s what buffoons do when they have no fight left in them.

        Asking me to kill myself ranks up there with telling me to STFU. It ain’t goin’ to happen.
        I will take your statement for what it is…a whimpering cry for help, a wish for me to stop crushing your tiny skull using nothing but these tiny black letters, a pathetic plea for mercy.
        You will find more mercy in an Israeli airstrike on hapless Palestinian children than you will with me.

      • This idiot is pulling on straws to justify his idiotic respond.

        Read below for further clarification:

        DOES THIS SENTENCE MAKE ANY SENSE, WHAT ARE YOUR IMPLICATION HERE: You laugh because you’re a buffoon. No big surprise there. It’s what buffoons do when they have no fight left in them.

        A RESPONDENT THAT DESCRIBE A IDIOT; Asking me to kill myself ranks up there with telling me to STFU. It ain’t goin’ to happen.

        WASTE OF TIME AND ENERGY, FIND SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO DO, IT DOESN’T WROTH IT TO SIT BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER AND BEAT YOUR KEYBOARD FOR NO SPECIFIC REASON..; I will take your statement for what it is…a whimpering cry for help, a wish for me to stop crushing your tiny skull using nothing but these tiny black letters, a pathetic plea for mercy.
        You will find more mercy in an Israeli airstrike on hapless Palestinian children than you will with me.

        LMAOO!!!

        HIS STATEMENT REMIND ME OF KIDS PLAYING WITH TOYS LIVING IN THEIR WILD IMAGINATION.

        THERE:

        READERS WILL SEE THE EVIDENT FACTS OF HOW STUPID YOU ARE.

        yeah, no matter what you suggest, you’ll agree the fact that, you’re dumb enough to reply to a close statement.

      • This argumentum ad populum retort of yours is almost as pathetic as your strawman arguments.

        Whenever ignorance meets and marries buffoonery, patheticness is sure to follow!

      • “LMAO!!! YOU ARE DOING PRETTY WELL.”

        I know! I don’t need, want, nor require your blessings.

      • Your doing pretty well in your stupidity, and you just approve it.

        cooool!

      • “Your doing pretty well in your stupidity, and you just approve it.”

        *snicker*
        What an ignorant f#cking sod!

        You’re doing pretty well in your stupidity, and you just proved it”
        There! FTFY
        LMFAO!!!

      • ah… Actually, i wasnt prettying up anything for an idiot and a fag like you.

        The fact that prove and approve is the same Definition it generally label as a homophones, “your” refer to one’s own… meaning your stupidity you own it as a privilege.

        According to bounty killer; You are stupid, and you are saying crapped, so i would respond with crappies!

        dwrl!!!!

        Thanks anyway!

        DWRL!!!!

      • A fool like you dares to bring BS facts into the discussion??!

        What would you call a man who claims the opposite of what is really true?

        First thing you must know is “prove and approve” are not homophones. Second thing…I’ll let a dictionary explain it to you, since you have yet to see one in over 20 years.

        prove verb ?prüv

        : to show the existence, truth, or correctness of (something) by using evidence, logic, etc.
        : to show that (someone or something) has a particular quality, ability, etc.
        : to turn out to be

        ap·prove verb ?-?prüv

        : to believe that something or someone is good or acceptable
        : to officially accept (an idea, action, plan, etc.)

        Consider yourself schooled!

      • “people know you as copy an paste your summarizing everything i says an putting it into your stupid terms how dare you!….dwrl. such a funny dude every time i see you write i really have to laugh.”

        People?! Which “people” would you be referring to?? Those for whom I care nothing about? Those I don’t know? Those who don’t know me? Are you talking about my critics? WTF?!

        I have something I would like to confess to you. When I read your puerile drivel it helps to remind me of why I’ve placed so much emphasis on my own education.

      • Its Actually the other way around! don’t flattery yourself into a lie… You need to emphasize more on your education, because your expression is an F…lol. You are the one trolling on the net looking for attention.

        not me!

        what a joke!!

        Lmaooo!!!

      • Sorry dude, or dudette. I can no longer continue corresponding with you. Every time I read your drivel I feel dumber for having read it. You have no argument besides the strawman variety. You call me dumb, yet you are unable to string together simple words and fashion it into a coherent sentence. You have no facts whatsoever to bring to the table, and above all you’re as dumb as flaming bag of excrement!

        “Its Actually the other way around! don’t flattery yourself into a lie… You need to emphasize more on your education,”

        Dafuq was that supposed to mean??!

        LMFAO!!!

      • dudette?? dwrl

        Invalid Statement Below;

        Sorry dude, or dudette. I can no longer continue corresponding with you. Every time I read your drivel I feel dumber for having read it. You have no argument besides the strawman variety. You call me dumb, yet you are unable to string together simple words and fashion it into a coherent sentence. You have no facts whatsoever to bring to the table, and above all you’re as dumb as flaming bag of excrement!

        How can i correspond with a fag??

        The fact that mathematics is a language, If i even try to solve it with basic mathematics i would never find an answer.

        so why would i try thinking a random stupid fag going to use his common sense to understand logic??

        Dwrl…

        try again!

      • “How can i correspond with a fag??”

        *chuckles*

        Just because I have you on your knees, skullf#cking you mercilessly with these tiny black letters doesn’t mean I’m gay. It simply means that you are no match for me.

      • Evidence of gay quote;

        Failure – Just because I have you on your knees, skullf#cking you mercilessly with these tiny black letters doesn’t mean I’m gay. It simply means that you are no match for me.

        LMAOO!!!

      • Isn’t that strange???! If I were to talk about money, that would mean I was rich. If I were to talk about basketball, that would mean I play in the NBA. If I were to talk about science…that would make me a f#cking scientist??! WTF!?! LMAO!!!

      • “lol… ohhh!! here comes The Mr “man makes
        money” “money doesnt make a man”…Dude said i am
        naiveté…hahahaha!!! Your known as a parrot who repeats everything what people said. which is, parrot is one of the most dumbest animal on earth….”

        (SMFH)

        I never said you were naiveté. I know enough about the English language to use the adjective, naive in place of noun, naiveté if I so desired.

        My exact words: “LMAO! Sorry for laughing, but your
        naiveté is hilarious!”

        You see how it works?? When you’re a parrot, you will cut/copy and paste chit without knowing its true meaning.

        Thanks for playing!

      • awww He is mad.

        ohh! don’t thank me parrot!

        Thank your stupid @$$ mom to allow you enter in the world. i feel sorry for you, That badmind disease eating your brain out, go see a doctor parrot!

      • Daaaayam! I would have never thunk it! …I never knew Black men could be so f#ckin’ stupid, illiterate, and ignorant.
        What you should do is crawl back up into your mother’s rahtid womb and beg for another chance at life. The one you have now, you’ve completed wasted being such a f#cking dullard.

      • You are a sh!t brain, who ejected from your mom’s ass! so, i rather you to Consider yourself to crawl up into your mom’s @$$ and beg for mercy. your obviously suffering from idiotic disaster!

        You are a Big disappointment!

      • I really and truly feel sorry for people like you! You would think that in this day and age of Google, Bing, Yahoo, and Dogpile idiots like you would know better.
        If you believe it is a copy/paste job all you would have to do to prove it would be to follow these simple steps; pick a block of text, drop it into your favorite search engine, and see what comes back. Post the results here.
        Making claims like you have about what I wrote without any evidence to back it up is called faith. Holla at me when you have some sort of concrete evidence to back up your insipid assertion.

      • Yes, I do…LMFAO

      • You’re welcome to come along too.

      • *salena does a curtsy*

      • Now Zig you and I both know full well that I’m not a Kartel worshiper.You’ll have to figure out how to coax me out of the protective layer of my shell. *sighs*

        I have a better idea, go get the Anthrax virus I am more interested in testing my ancestors obligation to protect me. :)

      • You wish me to cause you harm??! Not in this lifetime, salena.

        Nonetheless, now you have me wondering what protection your ancestors could possibly offer you if I were to pick you up in my arms and wade into the crystal clear blue waters of the Caribbean island of your choice? How long would you last? How long would that string bikini of yours stay on??

      • It’s alright! Just bring it!
        You will probably be more of a challenge than most of these so-called men I see clinging to kartel’s nutsack.

      • So I guess we’re ready to be beheaded Mexican drug cartel style with breast exposed. Zig is so barbaric using a chainsaw and TNT on a sugar ants nest. dwl His ras don’t like to be tickled?

        I wonder if Zig knows that I’m protected by archangel Micheal and the blood of my Caribbean ancestors.And that no weapons formed against me spiritual,biological etc shall ever prosper. roflmao I won’t be able to catch the Ebola virus if he bytch slap me using an Ebola sufferer sweaty palm.dwl

      • I’m crying foul.You girls are not fair! You two have me tied to a tree stump with my back exposed, but you’re afraid to pick up that lash and go to work.

        I want the lash! Bring on the lash! Stop acting like some lil’ gurlz…pick it up and lay some leather to flesh, will ya!!

      • Let’s see what you do when we come at you with the “CAT O’ nine tails” made of leather strips. Putting lashes on your bare back and A$$…

      • Depending on the tempo and ferocity, I may just bust a nut, or two, or three!

      • Zig bark is worst than his bite, that’s what I think…LOL

      • Absolutely!

      • Zig think he slick instead of beheading us, he’ll tie us up and blow some cayenne pepper directly in an Ebola sufferer direction to get her to sneeze on us. roflmao haaa chooooo!

      • I don’t think he would ever put us up in front of his firing squad. Thank God

      • dwl *sighs*

      • Don’t see Zig or Hennessey say nothing about Vanessa charges being dropped…wonder why. LOL

      • Roflmao You know Zig don’t give a damn about G.S. His main focus is Kartel. dwl

      • RIGHT, LMFAO

      • Let’s not forget about you, salena. I got my one good eye on you too!

      • Hold on! She’s not out of the woods yet. According to the Jamaican Gleaner, a nolle prosequi was entered in by the prosecution. Technically, there’s no double jeopardy here, the courts can and most likely will prosecute her after kartel is done with his futile appeal.

        I know I don’t have to tell you this, but the devil is really and truly in the details.

      • Well we will see. Just hoping she learned from this to keep far from trouble…

      • No way salena! If I had you two tied up, I’d be spreading oil all over the both of you, taking pics and posting them to 4chan for chits and giggles!

      • (All this was said in Ziggyfagfag’s Megatron voice, which only resounds in his own head)

      • Spoken in the thick heavy Memphis, Tennessee accent of the one called, Morgan Freeman.

        “The poor and the underclass are growing. Racial justice and human rights are nonexistent. They have created a repressive society and we are their unwitting accomplices. Their intention to
        rule rests with the annihilation of consciousness. We have been lulled into a trance. They have made us indifferent to ourselves, to others. We are focused only on our own gain.”

      • 1Don wow I missed you.

      • teacher free to sleep in prison bed…. if that is what you call free… that is only freedom dat fool bwoy get

      • Believe it or not. The man that is locked away has way more knowledge than the free man. Books that are posses untold story is issue out to read in prison to teaches wisdom to many. and a man who is free in the mind of many. His freedom is everlasting.

      • You idiot,appeal was filed and conviction will be overturned , you are on every damn kartel article lol sad lil biyatch

      • Lowe him mek him Badmind… Badmind a beat him bad inna him head it ago bun him wen teacher walk free. Dwl…

      • Un-freaking-believable! Yikes! Here I am sitting in the comfort of my own home merrily typing away on UI…I haven’t killed anyone, have no intention of killing anyone. Have never been charged with or convicted of a crime…yet I’m the one with the badmind, and kartel is the teacher!? WTF kind of crazy are you??!

        LMFAO!!!

      • Ohh!?? Andrew…btw where did you get your law degree from?!
        *snicker*
        Even a layman like me knows kartel has a chance at having his conviction overturned. Nothing is written in stone just because an appeal is filed. Most every crim who’s gotten a hefty sentence appeals. It doesn’t mean they will be set free. Talk to me when kartel walks out of prison a free man…I’ll be right here up until the year 2049.

      • only god can judge, so i think you need to leave that part for him to cast the stone and stop be so hatefully, bad-mind real will hit you….

      • *wry smirk*
        …no need for criminal court judges…someone kills your sister, wife, or mother…no need to bring the guilty party to justice. God will judge him.
        Someone cons you out of your life’s savings…no need to pursue charges…God will judge him.
        A man walks into a public building and slaughters more than a dozen people…yup! God will judge him too!

        If you ruled the world, the first thing you would do is eliminate prisons…because men don’t judge men…invisible sky-dwelling deities do!

      • Speaking of conning life savings, Zig go over to “WE WANT YOU” to check out JCANS being extradited to US for scamming older US citizens out of their life savings. It made me so mad I been following the story.

      • I just replied to your post on the Observer: “Scam some more old idiot people, as some here call the victims.

        Tru dat! You know who’s most likely to fall for these financial scams? That’s right…the greedy!

        I mean, how “smart” does one have to be to believe there’s such a thing as easy money??!

        …then this pops up. “Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by Jamaica Observer.

        LMAO!!

      • Yes LOL, JO don’t approve right away. I got calls on my phone and the minute I hear you win I hang up because I know I didn’t enter so how could I win. But again these are elderly old people some living alone and they are more vulnerable…

      • ZJ Wah Wa is in Florida?! He’s royally f#cked. Like I said, a scam artist’s best ally is the inherent greed of their victim. Do you honestly believe that recording on your cellphone that you’ve won an all-expense paid trip to some vacation hot spot is true??!

      • He’s charged in North Dakota, and remember the people scammed are old retired people. The US have also extradited a gang of scammers, I guess he gave names. He had pleaded not guilty, but is now changing to guilty. He’s being charged with numerous counts and if found guilty each charge could be 40 years. He was caught at the airport going to JA with $105,000US.

      • Zig, they mostly prey on old people, and remember some of these elderly people sometimes have some form of dementia. The US ain’t joking taking their senior citizens for a ride ain’t going down like that. I do agree being greedy played into their hands, but these idiots making a career out of it.

      • It must be very boring where you leave.or you just discovred the internet?

      • What a f#cking second! This is the internet??! I thought I had fallen into a den of retards! Thanks for letting me know!

      • Oh my God Zig. LOL